Multiple endings?

[Menolly]

Was anyone able to do ANYTHING that affected the ending? I have hopes that if I made -every- right choice, then I would get a different ending... I heard that someone didn't put the Watilla back together. What did that do?? I'm also wondering if anyone was able to avoid getting arrested in Reza's house, or keep Brian from getting to the library.

[Luca]

As far as I'm aware, there are no multiple endings. There weren't in the original, and there's no reason to believe there are now. There's really only one key point where any multiple endings appear that they'd occur, and that's when the Azadi assassin meets up with Scorpion... But no matter which way you try to take it, the outcome is the same.

You're welcome to keep trying to find multiple endings, but I think it's a waste of time.

[Hypersapien]

Has anyone tried playing through the game without putting the purple gorilla thing back together? How does the last scene with Dr Chang go? And Zoe's last phone conversation with her father?

[Auras]

Yeah, I did. In the last conversation with her father he said that he checked with Wonkers and that he said that she wasn't at home. So nothing really changed. I was surprised that he COULD check with Wonkers when actually he didn't have a brain.

[Auras]

Quote from Ragnar's blog:
"My favourite little ‘Easter egg’, for example, is something that only happens at the very end if you did something at the very beginning."

From here (http://ragnartornquist.com/?p=137)

I wonder what he was reffering to. Was it this ?

[CrazyMutha29]

In another thread someone said at the very beginning they were able to eavesdrop on two monks talking saying they were going to 'cause the Undreaming by sending Brian to 'The Winter'... That might 'cause an additional part of the ending...

[Adagio]

Quote from Ragnar's blog:
"My favourite little ‘Easter egg’, for example, is something that only happens at the very end if you did something at the very beginning."

I wonder what he was reffering to. Was it this ?

It certainly wasn't the Wonker thing. I didn't put him together, but her father still says he checked in with him...

As far as I'm aware, there are no multiple endings. There weren't in the original, and there's no reason to believe there are now.

On the 'old' dreamfall site, it said something like "Three characters, three worlds, three endings"
But can't find it on the new site... I guess they just had to hurry the product, so they chose to get rid of it (it was delayed once, and they didn't want to delay it for a second time)

[talknerdy2me]

God, I wish that there were multiple endings...the one I got made NO sense.


*spoiler*

At the end of TLJ, we see April as an old woman, talking to crow. And in the ending I got, she was dead and never came back. Did I miss some key part of a conversation or what?

[Hypersapien]

God, I wish that there were multiple endings...the one I got made NO sense.


*spoiler*

At the end of TLJ, we see April as an old woman, talking to crow. And in the ending I got, she was dead and never came back. Did I miss some key part of a conversation or what?

There is a part 3 planned, and I for one don't believe that she is really dead. Remember that Kian's last name is 'Alvane' and in TLJ1, old April was called 'Lady Alvane'. Possibly as she fell from the walkway she was able to port herself somewhere where she could get medical attention.

[arbildog]

There is a part 3 planned, and I for one don't believe that she is really dead. Remember that Kian's last name is 'Alvane' and in TLJ1, old April was called 'Lady Alvane'. Possibly as she fell from the walkway she was able to port herself somewhere where she could get medical attention.

Oh wow. I knew I had heard that last name before. I too feel that April cannot be dead, and now here's proof =)

[Gwyn]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auras
Quote from Ragnar's blog:
"My favourite little ‘Easter egg’, for example, is something that only happens at the very end if you did something at the very beginning."

I wonder what he was reffering to. Was it this ?

There is a video of Brian after you finsih the game and watching the credit.
* At the very beginning I eavesdrop on two monks talking saying they were going to 'cause the Undreaming by sending Brian to 'The Winter'

[Klade]

Ya I never put wonkers back together either, I didn't know he could effect a conversation with Dr. Chang. I'm not sure what would have happened if he was there, but in my version she just talked with Zoe for a while before Zoe gave in and let herself be injected. Wonkers played no part of course.

At the end of the credits there is a message that repeats what the voodoo looking guy with the stick said. "The Undreaming is Unchained" and then there is a cut scene. The whole cut scene sorta speaks to the message thats on the new dreamfall site. "The future holds secrets only the past can reveal".

My biggest hope right now is that E3 will reveal plans by funcom to make a sequel. Cause if they don't complete it right now I plan to hunt them down to the end of my days ;-).

[Giske]

Ragnar Tørnquist said he wanted to make a sequel and a prequel, however I dont see how you can do "just" a prequel with TLJ 3 since you left so many questions unanswered in Dreamfall.

Also, notice at the end of the clip after the credits that Cortez says "Time is a circle". Could it be that in TLJ3 we will come full circle and end up where we began in TLJ?

April was said to be the one that restored balanced only to break it later, she restored balanced in TLJ by making Gordon whole again, and in Dreamfall she brings about the breaking of the balance by refusing to help Zoë?

She is also a major cause for the conflict between the Azadi and the people of the Northlands (and unintentionally lead to the destruction of the rebel camp because Kian is following her and the Azadi following him in turn).

The phrase "The Undreaming has been unchained" might be because the White was attacked and removed/killed so that it was finally free. Remember she said she couldnt hear the other 3 of the kin and that the Undreaming wouldnt roam free until it got rid of the kin.

This is a bit jumbled up, but my mind is just racing with all of these questions :p

[Typhon]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auras
Quote from Ragnar's blog:
"My favourite little ‘Easter egg’, for example, is something that only happens at the very end if you did something at the very beginning."

I wonder what he was reffering to. Was it this ?

There is a video of Brian after you finsih the game and watching the credit.
* At the very beginning I eavesdrop on two monks talking saying they were going to 'cause the Undreaming by sending Brian to 'The Winter'


Nope. I just finished my second run through of the game and eavesdropped on the monks at the beginning (I think you were refering to my post about that). It didn't change the ending at all.

[Hypersapien]

Ya I never put wonkers back together either, I didn't know he could effect a conversation with Dr. Chang. I'm not sure what would have happened if he was there, but in my version she just talked with Zoe for a while before Zoe gave in and let herself be injected. Wonkers played no part of course.

If you put wonkers together again, after Chang gives Zoe the second injection (after the house scene) and says she can't afford to have Zoe wake up, Wonkers climbs up onto the bed and he and Chang exchange a few lines.

[nagi]

If you put wonkers together again, after Chang gives Zoe the second injection (after the house scene) and says she can't afford to have Zoe wake up, Wonkers climbs up onto the bed and he and Chang exchange a few lines.

If I remember correctly, it was like this: W asks if she is asleep, C says yes. Then, W says he will wait there for her to wake up, maybe she will want to play when she wakes up. C say something like "maybe that will be so". It really tears into you since you know she most likely never going to awaken.

[TLJthatineed]

You know this Lady alvane that everyone is so certain is April. It just seems like her circumstances suits Zoe's fait . The whole storyteller/dreamer idea and since playing Dreamfall i dont see the presence of crow only concluding that it's April. Is it not possible that Zoe could have been the old lady. (or am i setting myself up to be shot down)

[Numinous]

Well, I guess the textures in TLJ for Lady Alvane are named "old april" so that's a major sign. Plus, Kian fell in love with April almost instantly. He's like the dirty heathen that starts going to church because of an infatuation with the angelic christian girl. Ha.

Either way, there's not a chance in hell that Ragnar would kill off our beloved April so easily and quickly.

I think it would be hilarious (but just plain wrong) if in TLJ3 it starts off with April swimming around in the swamp and one of those creatures eats her. At this point, the story can change since TLJ3 isn't exactly finished. Crow is Zoe's sidekick as well, which may add to the Zoe argument.

[Mordeth]

Quote from Ragnar's blog:
"My favourite little ‘Easter egg’, for example, is something that only happens at the very end if you did something at the very beginning."


Anybody found out what it was?
I don't think it's the movie you get after watching the credits (with brian in the mountains).

[loranna238]

God, I wish that there were multiple endings...the one I got made NO sense.


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At the end of TLJ, we see April as an old woman, talking to crow. And in the ending I got, she was dead and never came back. Did I miss some key part of a conversation or what?

We don't know for sure April is dead...we just saw her stabbed and fall into the water. I suppose that if you are in a magical world a stab through your stomache area isn't necessarily fatal. As for the old woman, we don't know now if that is April or Zoe (crow and Zoe did get along ok but I had a feeling from the way Zoe was behaving she was not as forgiving as April would have been about Crow's cold feet), or if it is someone else entirely. For that matter we don't even know if Zoe is dead or if she is still in a coma. The game makes you think and makes you react...that is what I like about it.

What I think may have happened...if the white lady said that April had been saved by Zoe (and assuming that meant the Drai Kin and not the evil doctor...it was basically that because April went and saved Zoe from the tower she bumped into Kian and Kian saved April by reminding her that not every one of the occupiers was evil. There is more than one way to save a person and one way is to save their soul and basically introduce fate into the mix. Of course it could be the other way around and that the whole thing was orchestrated to destroy the balance using the very people that could stop the balance from being destroyed, namely Zoe and Faith and April...and to some degree Kian...Zoe, the dreamer could have discovered exactly what was going on instead caused Faith to go away, which was the only thing blocking the Dreamer from coming into being; April is apparently out of the picture because Zoe interfered enough for April to be distracted from destroying the tower (or seriously making it go off schedule..I think the dreamer and the tower were supposed to be completed at the same time), which could have been accomplished BEFORE Kian tracked her down...instead April had to waste time going first to the Drai Kin and then to the Guardian in order to find out just whether or not Zoe was important to the balance. Which maybe she wasn't...obviously...the was a tool. So in a way, Zoe could have saved April by causing her to bump into Kian...or she could have basically destroyed them all by causing April to be delayed with what she was doing.

The idea seems to be to kill the dragons off (there is a strong hint that Brian Westhouse is not what he seems) and unite the two worlds and destroy the balance. However, sometimes in these type of stories the baddies (and that blonde lady seems to be a real one) basically put the seed of their own destruction into the mix, not even intending to.

As for there being multiple endings maybe it is possible that there *were* multiple endings but that the story got too big for one game...I mean...I'm not going to even go into what happened to me, just to say...Ragnar...I sincerely wanted to strangle him for this because I could not put it down. Period. Only to go to the bathroom...<shakes head> my cats went hungry for 10 hours...I feel like a bad person..anyways, I digress; from what Ragnar says in his blog it was mapped out this way so maybe as he was writing it it just became too big for one game and had to split it into two. Either way, I have faith in this writer and believe he *will* tell us the ending one way or the other, which is a relief.

Anyways I got rather off tangent. My original point is that we don't know that either Zoe or April is dead, or the White Drai Kin for that matter, or that April is the Lady (god I can't remember her name), or even what the heck is going on with Brian Westhouse (though I think he is tainted somehow). All we can know is that it is only part of a story...and, at least for me, its one of the best stories I've ever read..or played.

[TLJthatineed]

i still think the old lady is April myself, mostly. It's just everything i thought from the first got blown out of the water in the second. And now it just seems too easy to assume. So i was just thinking that seeing as Zoe was (err this is where im a bit lost) a dreamer that is said to have important dreams also reffered to as stories the state of Lady Alvane would suit her maybe a little more. Besides i still get the impression that April has a different role to play.

I guess you could argue that there were 3 characters and they did each have endings. Maybe it was a confusion or misinterpretation of the words. It would be quite a devious thing to do though so I wouldn't imagine that is the case

[NeoKobeJunker]

man that ending pissed me off, I was about to redo most of the game and try stalling when kian is told to finish his mission. But by checking here, it seems nothing will happen.

*SPOLIERS/PISSED OFF QUESTION...and statememts*
I mean you dont even find out what happens to kian, whats up with the fake reza, April died (why), all the badguys got away with it, Zoe's killed by her mother, why is westhouse evil, what happened to liv and dameon, and whats up with the storm around the tower, what exactly is the giant dreamcore thing....more will come to me.

The only real answer that i can think of is that theres gonna be a direct sequel

Just read other thread...happy....sorry for the outburst.

[jtt]

Well, I guess the textures in TLJ for Lady Alvane are named "old april" so that's a major sign.

And the fact that Crow does call the old woman 'April' at the end of TLJ when she finishes telling her two guests her story (the guests btw do call her Lady Alvane). I replayed TLJ just before starting Dreamfall, so I am 100% positive.

[sassybree]

April was said to be the one that restored balanced only to break it later, she restored balanced in TLJ by making Gordon whole again, and in Dreamfall she brings about the breaking of the balance by refusing to help Zoë?

I dont think this is right, the balance is between Stark and Arcadia and having the guardian to balance them. To "break" the balance the two worlds must become one. At least that was my interpretation. I need to play TLJ again then play dreamfall again. But I remember the Minstrel Tobias talking about how within the new guardians term the worlds are supposed to become united again and that is probably the goal for the 3rd game. I have always thought that would be the eventual conclusion, though how how the story unfolds will be the adventure.

I do believe that April is alive (lady Alvane) and although I believe that Zoe died or is still in a coma, it is possible for her to remain an active character. Zoe has similar abilities to Faith and look how long Faith stayed around even after she had passed away. But no one will really know until Ragnar deems it so.

[Giske]

Yes, thats exactly right, you should replay TLJ again. Everyone tells April she will restore the balance (fixed Gordon) and then break it again later. She would save the worlds only to release chaos on the innocent.

They also say the reign of the 13th guardian was a short one and that the breaking of the balance happend shortly after he came to power.

[RandomObserver]

I so wish my original TLJ CDs weren't broken.

[Shaggffragg]

you guys are also forgeting that in TLJ they said the stark and archadia would be joined agian when the world could deal with it. and in the begining the old women(april in the future, who is alive so the whole world doesn't implod) say's "this story begins where it ends. in a relm that no longer exsits." the next thing we see is the relm of the guardien. so if that is true and the relm of the guardien is gone then... anyone... THE OTHERS ARE REJOINED PEACFULLY. the only reason that they were seperated in the first place was becuase of war.

[crow=great]

totally off topic for this squel stuff but "I" was paying very very very close attention to the white dra kin's death/removal.You see i think i know who killed my second fav character it was.......to my dissapointment i think it was crow,because when she gets attacked im at least 80% sure i heard wings flapping while she got attacked.

[zarc49]

I am 100% sure I heard wings flapping even without playing close attention. And it sounds like Crow's wings. Doesn't mean Crow did it though, all it means is Crow was there. It is TOTALLY out of character for Crow to attack the White Dragon. Besides, how can a crow harm a dragon?

[dae]

Peck her to death?

[LordSeth]

crow was at the end of TLJ with Lady Alvane happy and funny as always
no way it's crow.
ITS BRIAN WESTHOUSE!

[Ralzar]

Yup, my finger is also on Westhouse killing the White Dragon.

[dae]

Stop fingering! :)

[Shinya]

..only of course westhouse isn't really westhouse, as he was taken over by "the undreaming" as he entered the storytime (y'know, in the intro, called tainted)..

[Fabrock]

If you put wonkers together again, after Chang gives Zoe the second injection (after the house scene) and says she can't afford to have Zoe wake up, Wonkers climbs up onto the bed and he and Chang exchange a few lines.

At the end with Chang, 2 things can happen, if you put wonkers back together he pops up and says he'll wait for Zoe to wake up because she might want to play when she does... if you dont put him back together, he doesnt hop up onto the bed and be all cute... this is probably what Ragnar was talking about...

[LordSeth]

Stop fingering! :)

naughty! ;-)

[Alvane]

Westhouse was Tainted by The Undreaming the same way Halloway was tainted by the Chaos Rift. Halloway was working for the bad guys under the influence of the Chaos Rift, I'm guessing it is the same with Westhouse and that Westhouse is actually the Prophet also!

[LordSeth]

Westhouse was Tainted by The Undreaming the same way Halloway was tainted by the Chaos Rift. Halloway was working for the bad guys under the influence of the Chaos Rift, I'm guessing it is the same with Westhouse and that Westhouse is actually the Prophet also!

well ur forgetting that he was "Tainted" before even TLJ were he was drunk and didn't help any badguys. he helped April a little

[Nil Einne]

I personally do think Westhouse is tainted. But he isn't tainted in that he's working for the undreaming. Rather the undreaming is probably subtley influencing him. When he travelled, it was able to look for the dragons.

Finally, when the dragon was found, it took control over him and killed the dragon...

Note, there is another theory I've seen somewhere (I think it may have been wikipedia). Perhaps it in fact had something to do with the strange Dark Person who didn't recognise you? This seems a bit strange since surely they (Dark People) would have known and done something and also why did he wait so long, but who knows?

[grumbel]

Yes, that Dark Person definitivly might be another possibilty for the attacker, maybe it was influenced by the undreaming as well. If one looks around in the DarkCity one gets to know that the DarkPeople act as a hive mind and normally don't have any individuality, so normally each person should know what the rest knows, the DarkPerson on the ship however didn't knew about April, while the one in the city did.

[Jorge]

Westhouse was Tainted by The Undreaming the same way Halloway was tainted by the Chaos Rift. Halloway was working for the bad guys under the influence of the Chaos Rift, I'm guessing it is the same with Westhouse and that Westhouse is actually the Prophet also!

Halloway wasn't tainted in The Longest Journey, it is actually a part of him. He was split into two parts when McAllen's company experimented on him. A pure logic part (The Halloway in Stark) and a pure emotional part (the Chaos Vortex). April made him whole again at the end of the game by joining the two parts and he was ready to be the new guardian.

[Norman]

Ok, so Brian Westhouse pecked White dragon to death.

[Datro]

I'm convinced we hear Crow's wings flapping only because Crow is reacting to the attack, not causing it. I mean, if you were sitting in a room with somebody, and then someone else came in and attacked the person you were sitting with, wouldn't YOU flap your wings (or whatever)?

[GepardenK]

I'm convinced we hear Crow's wings flapping only because Crow is reacting to the attack, not causing it. I mean, if you were sitting in a room with somebody, and then someone else came in and attacked the person you were sitting with, wouldn't YOU flap your wings (or whatever)?
Yeah. for all we know, Crow`s flapping could be caused by him flapping his wings in an atempt to fly and rescue the white dragon

At the start of tlj3 we see westhouse on the floor screaming:
-oh good god, get that stupid bird off me.....

[Datro]

Yeah. for all we know, Crow`s flapping could be caused by him flapping his wings in an atempt to fly and rescue the white dragon



I wasn't even thinking of him trying to rescue her, necessarily, but rather just flapping his wings because he was startled, like "Ah!! WTF is going on?!"

[GepardenK]

I wasn't even thinking of him trying to rescue her, necessarily, but rather just flapping his wings because he was startled, like "Ah!! WTF is going on?!"
I know, but he could try to rescue her. If not only to reclaim the "sidekick of the month award" from that stupid guy with hairy feets.......

[Datro]

I know, but he could try to rescue her. If not only to reclaim the "sidekick of the month award" from that stupid guy with hairy feets.......

Good point!

[sireebob]

If we can get over the suspense of the moment, it really doesn't make sense that Crow would fly away without even saying anything. Sure, Tornquist can explain that idea away, but I KNOW that - being Crow- he would definitely say something like "I'm getting out of here!" That's who he is!

So maybe the flapping wings is something/somebody else. I wouldn't think the White Dragon could flap so quickly though or in that manner.

[Miral]

Yeah, I agree with sireebob. It's just unthinkable that Crow wouldn't say anything, even if -- no, especially if startled or frightened. So unless Ragnar is trying a fake-out (and I think too much of his writing to really believe that) then it must be something else.

Maybe it was one of those robes flapping? That would put suspicion back on an Undreaming-infected Dark Person....

[Gaheris]

Hmm finished the game in 2 days... kind of a shame it doesnt have a multiple ending...

To be honnest, the whole story is about preventing something that happends in the end anyway. And what about Kian? He just there for show? I think the total time i played with this character would be an hour :P. A lil buttkicking here and thats it...

But! dont want to be a nag or anything, story was interesting and the graphics look spankin... still, i had hoped more of ending or multiples.


They better finish what they started!

[Datro]

Hmm finished the game in 2 days...

Sheeshh... how many hours do you spend sitting in front of your computer/xbox per day?! Took me close to two weeks, playing about an hour or so a day.

[Gaheris]

I didnt find the puzzles very puzzlingm, most time is all the walking. uhm finished the game about 18 hours i think, week off and thought id keep myself busy with a new game :).

[Datro]

I didnt find the puzzles very puzzlingm, most time is all the walking. uhm finished the game about 18 hours i think, week off and thought id keep myself busy with a new game :).

I have to agree it wasn't very challenging. I guess it took us about the same length of time to complete it (actually 18 hours seems longer than I thought), but we just spread it out differently.

I remember lending my copy of TLJ to a friend, and two days later she gives it back and said she didn't like it much because it was too short and easy. That really made me feel like an idiot, because TLJ took me quite a long time to complete!

[Gaheris]

It all depends how one uses his hours ;).

Just think of it this way; Stuck? for how long? or all just like a walk in the park?

[Priamas]

My thoughts and speculations on the sequel to The Longest Journey: Dreamfall

First, the release of Dreamfall was pushed back twice to the best of my knowledge and that filled me with far too much frustration and sorrow to even get into. However, evetually, it was released and after I stopped screaming about the game aparently being thrown into a Quake-style engine and remembering how ill I felt from playing Tomb Raider in the whole 3D type setting and swearing I'd never play another game like that, I got so deeply involved with the game that I think I stopped eating for a couple days and just played the game in about a week and a half. Those times, they were good!

So playing away, I am at one with the game and I start predicting what is going to happen, minutes before it actually does in the game. I saw things happenning and my visions came to pass. I was the Dreamfall prophet and no secret was unknown to me! Did I mention I didn't really sleep either?

You start off the game and Brian Westhouse gets attacked by the big bad black cloud. Poor Brian, he was of little use in the first game, but if you want to brink him back just to kill him, then that's ok by me. But wait, near the end of the game, here's Brian again? How in the hell? Isn't he dead? No, Johnny, sometimes big black clouds of evil will just corrupt people and turn them evil or just control them and make them do evil things. So we can guess that this is what happened to our dear Mr. Westhouse. Why would he want to take Zoë to the ancient library though? Oh, that's right Suzie, the evil in him is wanting to destroy or corrupt the White of the Driac Kin (it is not right to be turned on by a CGI character ... it is not right to be turned on by a CGI character ... it is not right to be turned on by a CGI character ...). When he does this, we hear Crow all squaky-like, or at least flapping his wings, so he could be housing the evil and trying to spread it to The White or he's trying to defend her from Brian. Either way, she's the most powerful being in Arcadia and she's now evil. I object! Speculation, your honour. Oh, alright then, I THINK she's been corrupted and I BELIEVE she's all evil now. Bad news for Arcadia.
Let's look at another series of events now, shal we? Kian and April on the pier. Kian is totally hot for April and April is feeling something for him too. You could tell from their first encounter that they were supposed to fall for one another - there is likely to be tragedy there bu oh, that's right, there WAS some tragedy, wasn't there? Was there? I mean, they are getting all cute with one another and suddenly April is killed ... or stabbed in the chest. A wound like that would surely kill a person. In Arcadia, anyway. But what can April do? I don't see any hands raised, boys and girls. Well I'll tell you then: April Ryan is a shifter. She only did it once in this game and some would say it was with the help of the The White, but she only gave april the confidence to do what she was already able to do. So what do you suppose a nice girl like that would want, say as her dying wish? I'm thinking she'd want to see Emma and Charlie one last time. Maybe she then opens a shift and possibly ends up aon a table in front of Charlie at The Fringe, I think she may also find herself in the company of Cortez or Manny, as Brian used to call him. After the end credits you see them together in 1939 and Brian calls him Chavez, that's Manny Chavez for those of you who didn't get the Limited Edition of TLJ: Dreamfall, which comes with a book of artwork of all of the characters (best purchase ever!). It is possible that Cortez (as April calls him) is still around in Stark. Point of interests, he is a Dragon, just as The White is a dragon also. They are the las remaining dragond in the twin world ... but again, Cortez may have died at the end of the the first TLJ (fighting another of the Kin). So April is shifting back to Stark - it's a given - and she will get her wounds treated there and then talk to Charlie and Emma and they will tell her more about Zoë she'll end up in all the same trouble that Zoë found herself in, with some major differences: 1) the worm is in place in Eingana 2) in addition to Charlie's connections that he will obviously have, she can get in touch with Olivia, gain her trust and have her data also. 2a)Damien, provided he's not pure evil as The Omen's Damien is going to be of some use, but I think he's likely going to turn out to be a bad guy (why else the name Damien, right?). Point is, she'll have a lot more going for her than poor wee unexperienced Zoë did and I'm sure she'll hear a whispering in her ear, "Find her. Save her. Find Zoë Castillo. Save Zoë".

Now our poor Zoë will have a bit of a rough time of it, trapped in a world of dreams, but what she will have is the same abilities as Faith did, she's her sister, after all, right? And who was it again who told Faith to find April Ryan? The White of the Driac Kin. So Zoë's role for the most part in the next game will more than likely be to unwittingly do harmful things in whatever aspects of the twin worlds she has access to. I believe that teh witch who betrayed April to Kian may have some ability to commune with Zoë on some form of spiritual/magical level. But in Stark, I can only see her appearing on view screens of many characters, not a lot of playability with her though, until she's saved, which will likely be in the second half, maybe close to the end of the next game.

Kian will be sent back to the main city. His old instructor will assist him in his escape and the instructor will die because of his efforts. Kian will be lost in a world he knows all too well. He will have forsaken The Six, may still have faith in The Goddess but not know what to do about his sudden loss of faith. Through April's shifting, she will appear to Kian and not only the fact that she is still alive, but also the fact that she is helping him find a home with the remaining rebels and take up arms in their war, but the love that is growing between the two has April encouraging him to embrace the faith that he is losing and keep it strong, even explain and teach it to the other rebels, so that they can understand the fundamentals of those who are opressing them. After all, once they overthrow the Azadi, they have to be able to show them that the corruption they are spreading is not the will of the Godess. So I believe that while Kian will still have a very physical role, with fighting and such, he will also have a very spiritual battle that he will not only have to fight within himself but also one that he will have to bring to the whole Azadi empire.

Other things that will happen are the reuniting of Zoë's parents. Zoë's discovering the REAL Reza and assisting in the doing away with the imposer - yes, we've been told that Reza is dead, but since when do we trust evil characters when they tell us things? Olivia, Damien, Cortez and Reza all have to be found and those nasty Twins will have to be dealt with. The Dream Core will have to be destroyed, but I still think that the original worm which Zoë installed will be doing that from Damien's computer ... even if I do think he's evil. So the 3rd TLJ looks like it's going to be another great product from FunCom .... with one tiny snag...

(The following is an e-mail sent to me regarding a sequel to Dreamfall)

"There are no current plans for a third installment. We currently are
working on multiple projects that will have our developers busy for the
next few years. I am sorry."

So we are all welcome to dream, but it doesn't look like those dreams will become a reality any time soon, sadly.

Maintain the Balance!

[Deathwalker]

"There are no current plans for a third installment. We currently are
working on multiple projects that will have our developers busy for the
next few years. I am sorry."

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo!

[Datro]

You know, as much as I'd hate to think the next TLJ game would be the last one (assuming a next one is made), I do hope they really conclude the story in it. I can appreciate the intent behind leaving us with a cliffhanger as they did in Dreamfall, but it's a bit silly when they don't know if it will be successful enough to warrant a sequel. The next game has to resolve all the threads, because realistically, I think the odds of a fourth game are minimal at best.

[sojoyful]

(The following is an e-mail sent to me regarding a sequel to Dreamfall)

"There are no current plans for a third installment. We currently are
working on multiple projects that will have our developers busy for the
next few years. I am sorry."

So we are all welcome to dream, but it doesn't look like those dreams will become a reality any time soon, sadly.
Before everybody starts flipping out about this, I'd like to know the source of that unattributed statement. I'm betting it's not legit.

Ragnar will tell us whatever he can on his website, and that's where we should be getting our information.

[Miral]

Before everybody starts flipping out about this, I'd like to know the source of that unattributed statement. I'm betting it's not legit.

Ragnar will tell us whatever he can on his website, and that's where we should be getting our information.
Ragnar has already said something almost exactly like this. But don't get too worked up about it -- "no current plans" simply means "we're not working on it right now", it doesn't mean "it's not gonna happen".

If Funcom ever did say "it's not gonna happen" then they'd find themselves facing an angry mob in short order. I'm sure the third game will happen. In time. Have faith ;)

[Priamas]

No, it is in no way factual or legitimate. The post was just intended to say how I saw the end of the Dreamfall game should have ended, based on how everything that was going on in the game seemed to be predictable - highly enjoyable, but still predictable. If there was a way to keep playing or if there were a different ending that could be achieved, that was how I saw things going ... based on nothing more than the patterns, clues and predictability. There is nothing that says that anything I have mentioned is what will happen (obviously), but does it not seem that at least SOME of the notions spewed forth from my keyboard onto this forum make at least a little sense? I only mean to say that if I were asked what I thought was going to happen next, that is what I would tell them. But I know that nobody here has asked me, so call me crazy or tell me not to post, if that is your choice or desire. The forum is for sharing ideas and/or opinions. If mine are unwanted, I'll stop with my spurting of craziness. Sorry if I have upset anybody. --Cheers!

[sojoyful]

But I know that nobody here has asked me, so call me crazy or tell me not to post, if that is your choice or desire. The forum is for sharing ideas and/or opinions. If mine are unwanted, I'll stop with my spurting of craziness. Sorry if I have upset anybody. --Cheers!
Priamas, please look again at my post. I was commenting only on the email you included. That's why I quoted only that portion of your post.

Ragnar has already said something almost exactly like this. But don't get too worked up about it -- "no current plans" simply means "we're not working on it right now", it doesn't mean "it's not gonna happen".

If Funcom ever did say "it's not gonna happen" then they'd find themselves facing an angry mob in short order. I'm sure the third game will happen. In time. Have faith ;)
Yes, I think Ragnar has been very accomodating by providing his eager fans with an idea of what the future could look like, especially so early after the game has been released. He won't let us down.

[Tizzy]

Yes, I think Ragnar has been very accomodating by providing his eager fans with an idea of what the future could look like, especially so early after the game has been released. He won't let us down.

We could also look at it this way: he's a storyteller. He's not going to want the rest of the story to go untold--not the important bits, anyway.

*crosses fingers*

[Orange]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auras
Quote from Ragnar's blog:
"My favourite little ‘Easter egg’, for example, is something that only happens at the very end if you did something at the very beginning."

I wonder what he was reffering to. Was it this ?

There is a video of Brian after you finsih the game and watching the credit.
* At the very beginning I eavesdrop on two monks talking saying they were going to 'cause the Undreaming by sending Brian to 'The Winter'

No, this can`t be an easteregg. I finished the game without hearing what the monks are talking about. And the tibet-scene although came after the credits. I`m sure that Ragnar was talking about Wonkers brain.

But I have another question: What did these monks talk about? I`m too silly to get this - they always notice me.

[Miral]

But I have another question: What did these monks talk about? I`m too silly to get this - they always notice me.
You can't get too close -- you have to stand back a ways and use the focus field. That's pretty much the same with all the other conversations you can eavesdrop on -- get too close and you just get a (usually) snarky remark instead of the conversation.

The whole thing has been posted in this forum before, though. Just do a search.

[Orange]

Thanks for the answer. A friend told me now what they said. ;)